Ranger pve bdo reddit At Awakening ranger is a strong class for small/ medium scale pvp, it requires a decent amount of practice to play her as intended, the PvE isn't that great, but she ain't a trash grinder either, like she can be very good at dekhian ash and tungrad ruins, but she doesn't perform very well at Thorwood dekhian, however it's a good class from my perspective, she has their flaws and 242K subscribers in the blackdesertonline community. Aside from being weak early on, my suggestion would be test ranger for a few levels to see if it The Ranger class has lots of movement and agility, allowing you to kite your target and deal damage at long and short distances. 19 votes, 10 comments. In PvE, Succession Ranger is one of the worst grinders in the game, due to a complete lack of special attacks - no back attacks, no down attacks. Basically, i love class which has pretty outfits decent in pve (since i do pve more than pvp, and i know that ranger cant compare with witch in terms of pve) probably a little bit good at pvp If it was a question about grinding and pvpers said "but what about ability to duel or PvP in general, that op grinder class is total trash in PvP not worth grinding with it" then I'd understand. For low mobs (one shotable) ranger is one of the most brain dead imo. Succession Ninja has great circular damage+mobility, Guardian hits from far away as well with slightly worse movement potential. Returning Player here, wondering what the current Meta of Endgame pvp gear is. There’s a couple spots where mobs have almost infinite accuracy so evasion gets hurt there but otherwise evasion is a little tankier once you hit pen gear for PVE (on evasion passive classes) Awa Ranger once you learn it is the most fun class I've played in BDO. On the other hand awak Ranger feels fun but his spammable skill (w+F) seems very weak. best at everything, pvp 8 grabs special 100% super armor giga damage and best pve all spots. BDO Archer PVE Complete PVE Combo Skill Rotation Guide by Trinity Online YouTube [Black Desert Online MMO] Reddit Hello everyone, If the guides do edit: as for pvp, warrior awake, flex, succ bad, sorc awake flex, succ flex, ranger succ main, awake, potentially flex but generally bad, zerk succ main, awake main, tamer bad, musa succ flex, awake main and flex, mae flex, valk awake main, However, ranger succ is really good at largescale, a bit better in PvE (than awaken) and easier to play. Both tested using: 3 바의캔 followed by 3 rapid 초:바모쏘 (typical in pvp), tested 20x. If that's how you see things I'm happy for you. Life is good. other classes good for 1v1 are awake ranger, awake lahn, succ ninja, succ kuno, awake warrior, succ zerker, awake striker, awake hash, awake drak and maybe more mostly speedy grab classes though though awake ranger is the queen of duels now, hard af but can do wonders Well, succ tamer has larger aoes than awak. Witch, warrior and sage are okay, rest is trash tier. Of course it requires 2 extraction crystals and only using it on sizable groups to not deplete all your mana in 2 seconds. Ranger is fun, cool, but etc. . 246K subscribers in the blackdesertonline community. I know this might sound sarcastic, but it's genuinely not. Meta in PVE isn't the same as meta in PVP. Musa best squishy pve (pirates, nagasz fogans etc) Ranger best late game pve (Fastest hysteria grinder etc). However, awak tamer has better mobility and sustained DPS. Combining it with horrible mobility doesn't make her very good in pve in general. Succession - He isn't suited for early game due to the nature of his kit (small-ish, frontal AOE, mediocre movement). She foregoes the use of her Kamasylven Sword to complement her archery skills. Awakening Nova is one of the best all rounders. So, let's compare. true. Because who the fuck gives a shit in PvP? Is that AI going to message you to kill yourself? No. In pve you really don't want to waste time healing, only in some specific danger situations (you got ccd even though you have 95% resistance and your combo is full with protections). Awa Ranger once you learn it is the most fun class I've played in BDO. All in all, less vulnerable to surprise back attacks and other spike damage, more fps, better latency. The devs keep nerfing her despite being relatively weak compared to everyone else. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. Edit: pre awakening ranger pve is quite different. Or check it out in the Everything that’s wrong with PvP in BDO by a semi-casual PvPer PvP Hi guys! Most of you know me as Angel_xz from Twitch or SavaG in Ranger PvP combo is much easier to pull off now, Some of us grind our main, I grind on awakening ranger and continue to, I get not wanting to put in effort and reap all the rewards, I think I'm finally content with my art gallery/collection of my BDO character. Looks pretty small aoe, mobs need to be very packed to hit them all. meanwhile awk ranger cant really do anything cause of its limited movement which mostly relies on SA and That's the problem right there imo: If you're DR to compete with evasion players you have to build accuracy, causing you to lose functionality both in pve and in pvp against other dr players. With it we got, of course, Grunil set too. Not so hot in mass pvp though. They offer exceptional damage output, survivability, and utility in end-game PvE. His midgame PVE suffers a similar issue, but is certainly better than early game since these mobs are a bit more tonk. Black Desert for Consoles | r/PlayBlackDesert Black Desert Mobile | r/BlackDesertMobile Archer is better than succ ranger in PvE and both are awesome in large scale. Guardian main here for a few years already. The official subreddit for the PC MMORPG Black Desert, developed by Pearl decent in pve (since i do pve more than pvp, and i know that ranger cant compare with witch in terms of pve) This sounds like some outdated sausan/pirate era thing. Since they have the ability to actually defend their spots as well more efficiently than Shai. Just to let you know, the ranger discord has thoroughly tested and mastered awk ranger and end game grinding is around 310apm. If you want chill grind go archer. But BDO is a game that heavily incentivizes you to care about efficiency to some extent. Awakening is great at packs that are far apart from each other and since it has a forward guard it's more viable in large scale pvp. Her recent mobility buff slightly balances stamina cost of movement and the Awakening Ranger specializes in precise and devastating ranged attacks. Awakened Ranger is a solidly average grinder, falling squarely in the middle of the pack at both Sycraia and Olun's. A skilled Nova is a top 3 grinder in almost any spot in the game. Dear u/exarkunn I am not "checking" this subreddit, it just pops up on my feed. Ranger PVE is still amazingly overpowered. You should probably check a ranger streamer to see what they do. Work very well against the build above, Suitable for ranged class like succ ranger/archer succ witchard, When I see a Reddit post complaining about BDO PVP A tier list only matters when competing against another player in PvP. But generally in bdo skill is the least impactful aspect in PvP. You don't need awakening to be top tier. I would also recommend checking out the ranger discord, even if personally I don't agree with everything they say, overall it's a great resource for information. Overall. gg/ms Members Online. and I could've ignored this post but checked the video, and in intro OP was complaining how bdo nerfed pvp, yet he like proper mazohist continue to Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Ranger & tamer pve The Reddit community for MapleStory. Buffs to succ Ranger such as no Tearing Arrow split damage in PvE, more Razor Wind damage, tree damage buff, and better crit and damage throughout the kit actually make her not that bad to PvE on. In pvp however it is very important to have someone to heal people. Ignition - Choosing between DW / Not a meta class for PVE but I wouldn't main anyone else. If you want a ranged "theme" rather than effective range of attack then go for Archer, Ranger or Witch/Wizard. Stun -> Knock down -> Damage -> kite to reset cool downs, repeat while laughing your ass off, you do not even need second set of skills, I only use self buff from second set, that's PvP, obviously Hi all, I just started playing BDO about a week ago and before starting the new season, I’ve tried out a few classes and watched some videos and awk Sorc and ranger appeal the most to me. It's just a core part of the game and you get plenty of character slots. There is appeal at first but it is undeniably the most simple and easiest class to pick up. Not affiliated with or restricted by Nexon. His endgame PVE outside of Oluns, Trolls, and Crypt isn't anything special either. In theory a class like ninja is good in 1v1 and have high skill cap, in reality you going to get desynced and deleted more than it is acceptable. she is slow and unprotected. Awakening Ranger is mainly a 1v1 spec. Ranger is a great PVE class, as long as you don't mind burning through mana pots. Succession ranger seems pretty easy and strong but feels boring and "stationary". Hello reddit community , well i already got 58 lvl sorc and ranger , and debating which one is better in pvp / pve ? Ranger is ok at best in both PvE & PvP, sorc will outperform it in most scenarios. Almost equal, but Ranger need much more enchantment to get ahead of Sorc. Pve isn't a competition unlike pvp; them getting buffed and becoming even better makes no difference to you nor has any effect on your experience in the game. Awk Ranger in good hands is almost unbeatable with her protections, movement and dmg (but it’s a hard class to master and also has very high apm) pvp in bdo can be categorized in many ways due to the different types of pvp combat, which is one of the main issues currently I just rerolled off ranger to lahn after 2. (personally, i'd go with witch or wizard due to the heals they have) Rangers are one of the best pre-awakening PvE class, mostly because WotW is a very strong, spammable, large (but close-range) AoE. Have nice mobility to leap out of danger zones, highest hp, and only class on the Hope you guys can click the JOIN button and be part of the member in this reddit. Ranger is pretty damn good at both valencia spot and the money spots. You need to be a little more specific. Awk Ranger can get away with running an eva build Hi guys i am back to Bdo and now there is a new Relic system like okay what is the best setup for PVE? i heard there is a ton potential for 50% extra droprate and more ap Who cares if zerker pve is getting buffed. 1v1 awakened is high middle of the road. Not a ranger PVE: The name of the game is to keep your damaging skills in cooldown at all times. I swapped to evasion and noticed a significant difference in survivability as awake hash , both in pve and pvp. "BDO is a PVP game!" Uhm Wow u just dis the he'll outta Lahn XD. People parrot striker being a meta class, but then it can't even make it into the top 5 for overall endgame (exception being oluns, Quint) numbers. I can just split view BDO and Random TV on the couch at the same time now without any deaths. Actually, every class will) That's why there's so many cool ranger's PvP movies. Succ also has better burst damage. Tested against a giant with 280 def lvl 56 vs my lvl 55 ranger. Everyone crying about ranger cried not because they got killed by a ranger, but because they couldn't kill one while taking zero damage for 3 minutes from the ranger, but forgot about all the times where they looked at a ranger Reddit's No1 subreddit for Pokemon Go, Niantic's popular mobile game! Members Online Are 15 Atk, low Def and Stamina pokemon worth investing in if you only do PvE? Hello, I am a new BDO player and wanted to build a PVE Ranger with 2 skill presets one Succession and one Awakening. Her skills are slow and need to be in specific range the deal all of their damage. If you end up playing a class someone tells you to, instead of a class you enjoy I’ll be Succ nova has very little damage in pve. Members Online. If you love grinding, then BDO is the game for you. A diverse community of players devoted to Magic: the Gathering, a trading card game ("TCG") produced by Wizards of the Coast and originally designed by Richard Garfield. The question is: Which class is better to start with (game experience vise). In PvE, Archer is just slightly better than Ranger. from a pvp standpoint. 4. You can dish out all S-Tier– These classes are the best of the best and are highly recommended for any player looking to excel in BDO. (Also has a shield and a grab) Succ ranger - below average 1v1, good small scale, great large scale. It's mainly : -class you play (vs the other class) -your gear -fps/latency exploits which gives you the highest advantage. In 1vs1 I would say Awk Tamer and Awk Ranger are the best classes. If you want an overall RANGED PvE class thats good at it regardless of the location, then go with archer, ranger, witchard. 1st, Ranger isn't I just time-pieced a Ranger(61) and I can't really find a clear answer for which one is used more for solo PvE content. I personally think Succ is in the better spot now PvE-wise. I’ve only played succession Ranger in large scale PvP but she’s still fun and can be good in most scenarios apart from duels. lol stating warrior or ranger is a good 1,2,3 button grind class and then saying 'stfu' so people can't counter the weak argument lahn is pretty good for a lazy grinder, better than guardians or casters that are also lazy grinders, probably worse currently than strikers and succ zerk, definitely better than lazy mode ranger with wotw spam Succ Ranger wasn't bad, in fact she was better than you think, but it really depends on how you run your set up + skill rotations. To give a different perspective just because I have both at 56+, ranger is great at PvE grinding but they are brain dead boring. The official subreddit for the PC MMORPG Black Desert, developed by Pearl Abyss. Musa: Fastest move speed, decent aoes. The only situation in which ranger might have the edge on sorc is in large scale pvp. I personally dislike Succession Berserker but unfortunately it’s its outdated I'd say, ranger got their succession and that improves their longbow at the cost of their weapon swap, so they lose their 1v1 potential for bigger group pvp impact when archer was first released, they broke the pvp arena map because they were stunning people from half the map away and no one could even pvp Depends what type of PvP you want. Both suffer in 1v1. Dk is much easier to farm on but slower I want to play ranged classes in BDO, so it leves me with choices from title. The low amount of ranger videos con be explained by the sadly low amount of high end rangers that do pve. And awakened ranger is one of the best 1v1 classes period. Pvp archer is god tier at end game ap levels too. Which is a shame because it's also one of my fave classes asthetic wise. If you enjoy grinding - then congrats, the grind basically never ends, enjoy the road, BDO will keep you busy for near eternity. Also, BDO almost demands that you have alts. I have lvl 30 Ranger and I really like the feeling of that class, but I often mess key combos on her. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. Archer is the better 1v1 between Archer and Succ Ranger, however Awa Ranger is the better 1v1 class than either of the other 2. Heve armor is still good for a 2 piece because hp helps but no need Awakening is still ok at duels and ok in PvE at certain spots if you prefer that aesthetically over succession. I. most classes have some kind of identity in group fights/large scale like dk/kuno/sorc pretty much do really well as rat classes due to their abundance of iframes, range and speed, guardian/valk do well as tanks, casters heal and have a lot of ranged dmg plus a few other benefits. Dk is low tier everywhere. Succession Ranger is great for node wars. Just high AP and accept that you have to spam your -->+F and mana pots. In pve I'd say shai > witch = wizard > valk In pvp I'd say valk > shai > witch = wizard Well, it depends on the pvp or pve majority. This usually means that succ tamer performs better at spots with high mob density where all mobs are of similar “strength” (because she can burst the entire pack) whereas awak tamer performs better at spots with “elites” or fewer mobs like quint Awakened ranger is most definitely on a big rip it feels like. I a lot of other MMOs I always preferred playing a Ranger/Hunter and I wanted to give it a go in BDO. Here’s some easy succ class options Succ Guardian - decent 1v1, good small scale, great large scale. This is actually starting to tilt me. Succ ranger is pretty much always the top frag in nw and siege. Kutum off hand for PvE. P Lahn mains, but yea Pve wise Witch AWK very ez, very simple 2 learn Mid tier grinder. The official subreddit for the PC MMORPG Black Desert, developed by Pearl Honestly I don’t see why your complaining about this. Both can do well in PvE, some specs are better at some spots than others. And even with doing everything perfectly her damage is still low in pve. And in PVP, the meta in NW is different to AOS, or dueling, or guild league. Cannot tell you much about hash. So if you guys would make a Ranger and had the option to get one of these three All BDO classes are "AOE casters". If you like archer stick with it, you can play for a solid two years and not run into any pve spots that will give you trouble, then when you do, you can tag a better pve grinder. They have high attack damage but very low defenses and are considered a glass Ranger imo is the best pot pieces class, optimally with 270 AP as it is a big bracket boost for monster damage. If you want to be efficient in PVE as ranger you're going to grind about the same speed as warrior or sorc, and not as good as witch or wizard. Who cares if zerker pve is getting buffed. Best mob grinder out of the list. A-Tier– These classes are still very strong and viable options for PvE, but may require more practice and skill to master than S tier clas Ranger pre-awakening has no self heal, so you have to dodge/evade in combat, & need lots of Stamina. Archer is actually in an amazing spot right now, he just takes twice the effort of other classes in end game pve. I played Awa Zerker for past 2 years, basically ever since I started playing BDO. Awakening ranger is a strong class for small/ medium scale pvp, it requires a decent amount of practice to play her as intended, the PvE isn't that great, but she ain't a trash grinder either, like she can be very good at dekhian ash and tungrad ruins, but she doesn't perform very well at Thorwood dekhian, however it's a good class from my perspective, she has their flaws and Another detail, evasion isn't efficient enough until you have tons of it ( high PvE gear, at least min C9 or C13) which in the gearing process would be DR into Evasion. She can Ranger is really bad in every case. A lot of the ranger hype is that she can be ranged again now and that she will bring a lot to Node Wars and Sieges. Level 60 Ranger in a top page guild. Reply reply BDO moving servers to central USA May 22nd. Class is very fun tho The official subreddit for the PC MMORPG Black Desert, developed by Pearl Abyss. 1 montage where a Ranger kitted a guild of n00bs that had no idea how to play and the reddit set the world on fire. It's also pretty good 1v1 class when you learn it. Sure the Rain of arrows Ranger succ is top tier pve and large scale pvp. RN it's fine in terms of PVE, not the very top but if you spend some time to learn and understand the playstyle it can be considered average/good. It didn't used to be before, but Succ has been getting massive buffs overtime that I find that the effort-to-results argument of Awaken Guardian being the simplest and most braindead class yet decent results is no longer the case. I found that Yuria did more dmg than Liberto, both @ +18, by 3. Her awakening is the opposite. Currently Succ Ranger is better for Nodewars, by just a tiny bit over Archer. PVE-wise im pretty happy. Nouver for PvP. she only does damage with knockdowns and knockdown damage does not exist Opinions on reddit change very quickly, one patch can completely change a class, and awakening/succession tends to be more equal for most classes than it was in the past (at least for PVE). Even with a "main" you aren't locked down to just one class. Mastering will maybe allow you to get somewhat close to top numbers but it's way more effort than meta pve classes. Is it advisable, though? That depends on class. Her pve is very enjoyable, but she's about 2 steps away from being the worst grinder in the game atm. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit; Shop Collectible Avatars; [BDO] 검은사막 레인저 | Ranger PvP: You (Self-Promo) YouTube Video Succ ranger for pvp is pretty nice right now, you just gotta get the right build with your add ons, artifacts, lightstones, etc and of course you need the gear to make it work, but this is something that this patch is pushing right now, so no more low gear friendly as it used to be, you also have to learn a few "new" things related to the "main" pvp combo since cw and pw ain't doing the dmg Few days ago, i started to search for ranger pve and pvp videos and i found that i kinda like the class. but i have no clue on how to grind with her. You use about 2-3 skills for the rest of forever, and then in node wars you use 2-3 skills total. You stay in awakening and just "w" + "f" (waltz of wind) and dash to the next group of mobs. Expand user menu Open settings menu. 5 years, if that tells you anything. R. Questions about making a 40 votes, 14 comments. A Reddit community dedicated to The Elder Scrolls Online, an MMO developed by Zenimax Online. https://discord. Play them all and see what's the most fun. Going to keep it a Succession character as I like bows. IDK what you expected TBH Striker is a top PvE and PvP class. Should always have at least a tri bronze dagger with you in case 1v1 against someone with high evasion or if you have low accuracy. If you decide to learn both specs then ranger can also 1v1 and grind better than archer. But unfortunately all guides that I find are outdated or focus only on the PVP aspect. She has very fast animations, so you'll have to keep up with her with your fingers. Damage. The same I'd suggest. 7 years of BDO and we still can't search for recipes in lower case letters. They seem the most fun to me (and have good outfits), but I’m having trouble picking one. I'd put it as one of the worst classes in the game. (awk for gigachad and succ for succers) best at everything, pvp 8 grabs special 100% super armor giga damage and best pve all spots. Reply Ranger Does are the female classes I enjoye allot and well Ranger was the first ever class I made in 2016. Witch has ALWAYS been known to not be good in 1 vs 1 it was literally always the class for large scale PvP. What Skills do I invest in as a level 60 Ranger for PVE . Ranger was 1 of the BEST grinder before Stamina Changesand there still decent. How to endgame grind: FEAT Succesion Ranger! Hello redditors! TrismoX Here! It's a shame that at higher ping playing Ranger just doesn't work at all when the Ranger is an evasion class, though. It’s the only class I can play since every other class just feels boring and slow in comparison. Since I play as ranger, right now I'm working on 2 heve (for +250 hp Aka no more 10% hp damage on wotw and blasting gusts 10% is mitigated and penetrating wind has no viable PvP cc. If they are a bit to tanky you either press LMB after waltz of wind or just use it once more but backwards "s" + "f". Musa pvp is only good after 250ap, and becomes a god class later on while ranger is kinda good at every ap but late game id say musa is better than ranger but its gon be real hard for u to get to that point. Like he said, archer is better than us at most places, and I would say it is noticeable when comparing trash loot, especially after succ nerfs on ranger. As far as pvp goes it depends on your choice of succession or awakening for both. Succ sage - decent 1v1, decent small scale, good large scale Late game its pretty much the same for pve with the exception that ranger basically owns Valencia spots. When I see a Reddit post complaining about BDO PVP Lahn succession sounds easier than Ranger, but Ranger you get to keep distance which helps with some avoidance, plus you can use ranged skills on hot keys plus S+RMB for evasive explosive shot, and if you bind a key to jump Tested against a sorc with 327 def lvl 57 vs my lvl 55 ranger. I prefer awakened for PvE in general now, at 301k mh and 285k awakening, the awakening is much higher dmg A Reddit community dedicated to The Elder Scrolls Online, an MMO developed by Zenimax Online. Some people are saying awake ranger is the better option for 1v1 and PvE, while I agree Awake Ranger is very hard to play. Ranger: A bit slower movement speed than musa but good damage, but at the cost of having your life ruined with having to buy pots every hour just to be on par with everyone else. If question is asked about PvP don't be surprised to see pvpers state their opinions. Black Desert And he's not the best ranger on server))) See, if you can afford huge time and money investments, than ranger will become real killing machine. Additionally, in PVE, the meta changes according to the spot. Ranger's awaken is fine for damage, however our only protections are elven, which loses protection when you use the flow, and Nature's, which is a 21 second cooldown. Notes: +16 Steel Dagger was used. Hello, I just started with my Ranger she is sadly just at 1200 skillpoints . Also pve apm ain't really a problem, pvp has bigger difference So in BDO SA we just got Mediah patch. Horrible pvp damage. Welcome, we do love it here. A lot of players telling you the buffs aren't noticeable probably haven't changed their DPS rotation to feature Tearing Arrow as the main damaging skill. 56%. I've been grinding everything (low - high end spots) with succ ranger and my numbers are equal or close to those "top classes", just a few of them are superior, but ranger is definitely a good pve class, ofc don't expect a brainless grind with her, if you succ ranger and WoTW spam, look up on yt, succ zerk, fairly low apm, not my choice but if you like it, go ahead, both succ and awake musa, succ musa is a high apm class that doesn't cause problems with my hand due to the repetitive usage of blooming, just learn how to: blue buff skill -> blooming -> repeat, awake musa on the other hand is med View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. I've stayed on ranger as it's the most fun for me. Top I'd put awa ranger as a lot of skills are flows of other skills and you need to get the timing. It sound like ur new so if may, ima give u some advice to help u grind more efficiently. I'm planning to lvl all of them + Male Ranger once he's in the game. Succession Maehwa on the other hand felt good but the size of her Aoe worries me. In 1v1 and small scale pvp she is good. Try to run pve addon on breezy if you just plan on PVEing, if even then you're struggling with crescent, it's most likely accuracy, rangers used to run bronze dagger everywhere PLEASE STOP RECCOMENDING SUCC STRIKER. Overall I'd pick a class based on how awakened plays ranger is very nice but you really need a t3 fairy minimum because you'll be using both pots 2hile doing pve. And you can pay little to Lower than that for PvE is passable. Spamming mana pots and using 1 attack for pve puts ranger in top 3 farming easy. I'm coming back after 4 years and I am having a hard time finding anything current as the game has been around so long and thinks have changed. Log In / Sign Up; You should probably check a ranger streamer to see what they do. Carvacrol • The big winners of the pve changes are all the players who have fun grinding and playing instead of chasing the most efficient class and burning out after a week or two again, same as always A Reddit community dedicated to The Elder Scrolls Online, Few cancels and combos. Any class that has a dedicated evasion offhand is an evasion class; same with dr offhand and being a dr class. r/blackdesertonline A chip A close button. Keep in mind Just a question since it relies on crit chance, wouldn't awake ranger be better with this, since they have Wailing Wind that gives 20% crit rather than 10% from Bypassing Wind. So stay to DR unless your class benefits more from evasion. Main a Witch, try some other cool looking classes as alts- maybe you find something you like more and maybe not, either way you'll want the alts. Berserker: Best out of the four for bosses. PvE requires a lot of effort and gear to be sufficient. Your asking the devs to rewrite the character class while 90% of the characters are in worse PvP shape AND pve lol. 41+/-1. My hit rate did drop some, but with at least 1 accuracy accessory to swap and my +9% from skills, I don't have any issues. You can't just do 1 skill after another in series like striker. Ome of the hardest since it has no set rotation and one of the highest APM class. I played all of them and it's imo. That's not to say that she's unusable; she's just particularly bad. IT HASN'T BE A TOP PVE CLASS FOR A WHILE NOW. Hey y’all getting back into bdo after awhile wondering if I should choose ranger or sorceress mostly for pve late game, content. grinding to keep up with PvE content -- Grinding actually is the PvE content. For pvp, you survive SA trades a lot better, for sure. Roll with Bronze for pvp until you can Hi,The class got buffed few months ago. So you see, AOE killing a mob is different from AOE attracting enemies. Archer is better in almost all metrics than just succ ranger, has better pve, 1v1, and ranged aoe dps, he loses only to ranged single target dps, ranger can pick off targets at range much better than archer can and work better with the verticality of the fight. zqrgetrk jdrub ohygn dcch jmco spuwb uigj zuwiwtue krcppn zuykjoz